The Dumbing Down Of America?
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Barack Obama.
Hillary Clinton.
Imagine either one of them as President of these United States.
Now imagine how life may be affected... your life.
They both claim the oil companies make way too big a profit... though in reality their profit is way below the average business profit. They make 10% ... while most companies such as credit card companies make from 30 to 40% profit.
Because the oil companies make such a "huge" profit, both Obama and Clinton will make sure that is stopped. It doesn't matter how.. just stop it somenow. Well.. OK.. so it is stopped. The government claims those profits. The oil companies can no longer afford to produce the oil products our lives depend on.. and look closely.. it is more than just your car that depends on it. They need to charge more and more and more... as the government takes more and more and more.. until finally they are beaten up to the point the government steps in and offers to take over.. .after all we do need oil, you know.
The first "enemy" conquered.
The health insurance business is on the same level as the oil companies. .. an enemy. They too must be stopped. The government has an easy way of stopping them... just set up a government planned health plan and force each and every person to buy into it. How? Well.. Clinton suggests garnishing each person's wages. Easy.
Once those two enemies are conquered .. the path is set to fix every "evil" business in this country and the sky is the limit.
Can't happen?
Don't kid yourself.
Obama is on a roll.. flying high with all his rhetoric and beautiful "speeches" .. speaking words that have no substance beneath them at all... just promising in one way or another to "make things great for you".... by "change".
Hilary Clinton promises nothing at this point.. she is just fighting to stay alive so she can claim that spot that she seems to feel is just by rights hers to claim... almost an "inherited" spot.
Does anyone look back in history at all anymore? Does anyone care? There was a voice very much like these voices in the not too distant past that just about destroyed the world. Does anyone see the correlation?
I thought to now that Hillary Clinton was a socialist .. and I still believe that. I felt to now that Obama was a socialist. I no longer believe that. I believe he is a communist in the purest sense.
The sad thing is I wonder if he himself even recognizes that.
Another sad thing is that so many Americans see something of substance in his empty speeches.
Is it the part of human nature that would love to get everything for nothing, that would love to believe that there really is a way to get that.... everything for nothing? Is it called greed? Laziness?
I don't know. I do know that nothing .... is for nothing and what Obama seems to be speaking beneath his empty words is danger .. danger to our freedom.
Can any of us afford to forget for a moment what is behind our freedom... the lives given for it.. how hard it has been fought for.... right up to the present moment?
Are there that many Americans who brush this all off as just stupidity.. as something that has nothing to do with today?
I call it the dumbing down of America.
I hope it isn't the reality of today.
November will tell the story.
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And millions have jobs because of them...
I have never seen a problem with a company making money. Oh my god a record profit!?!? Well that must be wrong or corrupt. Silverstar has a very interesting angle here. Government control on free trade or commodoties is crazy. I work way to hard for my money and I will be damned if I will let a socialist government take a garnishment for healthcare for some jackass that is too lazy to work. The unemployment rate is only 5 percent, Healthcare is not a right. If I work my ass off and pay for descent healthcare, should I not be entitled to that as a benefit of my labors? All others can get healthcare through their employer or government agencies in place now, that seem to be funded fine for the last 40 years. I do not have any articles to quote or am I very articulate when it comes to politics, only my beliefs... And I was born in the U.S.A. not the socialist states of upper America, Do a checklist on your morals, and you will not vote Democrat this year. And did you hear Obama? "The American dream is to work hard and retire comfortable." Are you kidding me?!!?!?!?
Thank you Morimas.. and my hope is most Americans believe as you and I.. for I echo you completely. We come from a generation or two before us who fought with pride for the freedom we have and then worked so hard for everything they had.. which wasn't much as far as material things went... but ... what they did have and what they eventually achieved.. it was with their own hard work,, the "sweat of their brows"... and they had pride. Pride in their country .. pride in what they accomplished and thankfulness they lived in a country that allowed them do do it. That they passed on to the generations to come.. us. Obama will cut that off in an instant. The American Dream? He must believe in it only for himself. As for you Ralph.. more power to the oil companies and to all businesses of all sizes and shapes... and keep the government out of their business. I own a small business .. my profits are much greater percentage wise than the oil companies'. How long before Obama or Hillary would try to take those away once elected? Believe me.. I wouldn't give in without a fight. Would anyone?
Are you guys supporting John McCain for President?
Don't worry Hillary or Obama won't take your profits away when one of them is elected president.
It's freedom , Ralph. I value the freedom of America. Don't you? I am perfectly willing and able to work to take care of myself in every way. Aren't you? I am also perfectly willing and able to help those who really really need it. Would that be you? John McCain at least believes our country is worth fighting for. Don't you?
I am, but there are plenty of people who are unemployed, foreclosed, without health insurance, and bankrupt. How many homeless people do you want begging at intersections with traffic lights. We learned our lesson about this in the Great Depression and passed a number of social insurance programs that have served the country well. You sound like a Ron Paul supporter. Thank goodness there aren't many of you!
Clinton and Obama both believe in a market economy and free enterprise. However, they and even most Republicans support the need for some rules and a referee to make sure the free market delivers the promised benefits. Can you imagine a hockey or football game played without rules and referees to enforce them? The economy is the same--we need the Securities and Exchange Commission to help prevent stock fraud, the Food and Drug Administration to make sure our drugs and food are safe, OSHA to prescribe and enforce safety and health rules in the workplace, etc., etc. The only difference between most Democrats, including Clinton and Obama and most Republicans including all the GOP presidential candidates, except for Ron Paul, is that the Dems are inclined to support more regulation of the market than the Republicans. None are "socialists," and all are believers in our market economy and our basic freedoms.
unemployed, the rate is 5 percent, perfect is 3/ foreclosed? guess what. Thats because people were too stupid to buy what they could afford, I do not feel bad for them, poor choices, not a social crises, Bankrupt? Thats mine or your fault how? there are ome cases where charity is needed, but cmon man.And you sound like a "I hate Bush guy so I wont even look at reality as long as republicans are out" I am glad you hate Bush thats funny to me.
Oh, they will all do something to take our profits away, it is the cost of doing business and making America stronger, its called taxes and when they are used on the right things nobody has a problem, if the oil companies are forced to shut down to reduce profits or are regulated, the 10 billion dollar profits that are taxed and go to all your social programs will be gone and then the burden is back on the small guy. Hillary or Obama would lead this country to ruin, John "Mclame "may not be a charismatic speech giving unexperienced senator, or a manipulative crybaby power hungry wife of an ex president, but his policies line up better with the common man than either one of those socialist dems. And give it up, The democrats are not for the "working man" anymore, they are for taking from the working maan and leveling the field so all Americans have equal lives. That my friend is a crock. Socialism worked so well in Russia they lost heir country, And when this country changes for the worst, You will see what True Americans can do, as in retaking the country by any means neccesary. I refuse to take extra food off my families table to provide for yours, welfare programs have been in place for a long time. The focus should be reducing these socialist programs by helping these people realize that everything is theirs to take, not be given. More money dumped into that crap is going the wrong way.
Lets say I am a drug using couch potato that is capable of working, but lack the motivation or energy to work. What do you say? Probably "Get off your ass and get a job!!!!" But I say, " No just fork over money to our great socialist country and they will send me a monthly check to maintain my loser lifestyle."
Thats it in a nutshell.
You are proving Silverstar's point in the title of this Hub. I suggest you look the word "socialist" up in a dictionary. You obviously are clueless on what it means.
No one values anything that is given to them. That has been proven over and over and over again at the cost of millions and millions and these candidates still want to take more and more and more from those who value everything in their lives and work hard to keep it the way they want it and do what with it? Give more to those who refuse to help themselves. It is unreal.. and as Mortimas states.. try to get them to help themselves.. and they say "Why work if I dont have to? " That is the mentality they encourage.
It is so simple.. how can it be so hard to comprehend? Businesses keep our economy alive. Without big business we fall apart. Period. Thank goodness business make profits. The bigger the better.
An Obama or a Hillary thinks they can take care of everyone.. all they need is to get everyone's money in their hands. .. then dole it out as they see fit. After all.. who knows better what everyone needs than them? And goodness... it just isn't fair. You have more than them. Now come on.... be human .... give it up already.. be nice.. be good.. be fair. You won't? Then we will take it. Simple.
OK Ralph. You be the first. Go hand what you value over... and I am not referring to money. I am referring to freedom. It just happens to start with the economy. Destroy the economy.. you destroy all we have after that.. and I am not talking about depression. I am talking about our economy being destroyed by men in power.. or women. If we fall into a depression.. at least we all are in the same boat.. and we all must fight as our ancestors had to .. doing whatever it takes to get through it. During the real depression our government did all it could to help. What Obama and Hillary want to do is just the opposite.
Hey Ralph, sorry I am not an arrogant liberal that knows every damn thing, But I do not resort to name calling untill called out. So This dumb guy is going to look up socialist in the dictionary right now so you can feel better. I should just do what I am told, so which great leader do I vote for Ralph? You have swayed me to the left with your teacherlike redirection to third grade tactics.
Ralph.. propaganda is for fools.
–noun 1.a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. 2.procedure or practice in accordance with this theory. 3.(in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.
ok, where was I wrong?
When I say the government helped during the depression .. it put the people to work as much as it could.. it did not hand over money to them free of charge. It provided opportunities to work through the public work program.. work that stands still today in places. They earned what the government paid them. A far cry from what Obama and Hillary and their followers want to do.
Whoops.. Ralph. A lesson learned? Thanks.. Mortimas.
Just what is it the Hillary and Obama want to do that worries you? Try to be specific.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Leeches_Contribute_to_High
Mortimas, you referred to "socialist Dems" and "socialist programs." Nothing that Clinton or Obama has proposed fits the definition of socialism that you just looked up. Socialist isn't a synonym for Democrat, neither is leftist or even liberal. Some Democrats call themselves liberals but most do not. NONE of them believe in socialism. None advocate government "ownership and control of the means of production and distribution." Whatever gave you that idea anyway? Where do you get your information on politics?
The main difference on economics between Republicans and Democrats is what rules are necessary and appropriate for the regulation of the free enterprise system. The Dems are inclined to regulate more and the Republicans less. Nobody is advocating socialism.
Just what is it the Hillary and Obama want to do that worries you? Try to be specific.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Leeches_Contribute_to_High
Mortimas, you referred to "socialist Dems" and "socialist programs." Nothing that Clinton or Obama has proposed fits the definition of socialism that you just looked up. Socialist isn't a synonym for Democrat, neither is leftist or even liberal. Some Democrats call themselves liberals but most do not. NONE of them believe in socialism. None advocate government "ownership and control of the means of production and distribution." Whatever gave you that idea anyway? Where do you get your information on politics?
Silverstar, you said "propaganda is for fools." the hubs linked above are not "propaganda." They are based on actual recent events in the U.S. business world. I could cite many more very easily. They are completely factual, not propaganda.
If it walks like a duck its probably a duck. Any time the proposed leader of this country discuses redistribution of wealth, I.E. universal healthcare, , more government control on business, reducing profits. To ME it is socialist, I do not have to quote some source, I am only voicing my opinion here. I am looking at all your links as I am always open to information, but I base every opinion I make and how I will vote on how it directly affects my family. Bottom line I could care less about someone without healthcare, I am going to pay for it one way or another am I not? Higher health care for me and my family because the healthcare industry loses money on the uninsured, or Hillarys garnishment that will give everyone healthcare. Either way I pay. But I keep my place at the front of the line for my kids and me with my paid for healthcare, I have a choice where I take them for care. The universal way, all my hard work gets me nothing when it comes to my kids, but the kids of the welfare family get the same place in line. As you can see I am not very compassionate. My Family comes first, and to me universal healthcare does not put them first. Wow that even sounded harsh to me hahaha. But it is true.
I can't believe you waste your time with the hopelessly uneducated and those incapable of rational thought, ralph. And I thought I enjoyed pointless endeavors. :p
It all comes down to freedom.. freedom of choice in everything. That is what a Hillary or Obama threaten to do... they threaten to take it away from each and everyone of us who values it most. Don't you care? Don't you enjoy making your own choices in everything in your life? How can you not.. and if you do.. how can you possibly back a Hillary or an Obama? And I agree with you Ralph.. I have said it before.. it is a state of mind.. socialism.. not a label of lib or democrat but sadly they are the ones who follow it.. or long for it. Why? Why would ANY American back someone who is an advocate of socialism? Mind boggling. Thus the title....
No lounn!!!!!! Not you?!?!? I could care less about political leanings. But an Eliteist? I am hurt.
can't believe you waste your time with the hopelessly uneducated and those incapable of rational thought, ralph.
Really that was just mean.
lol, sorry. a little hyperbole. for the record, I certainly did not downthumb silverstar's hub. both he and you have the right to hold any opinion you like.
ralph is right, though :D also, Happy V Day! :)
Happy Valentines day Lounn, YOU are Beautiful!!!! :]
lol, thank you and thanks for getting I was just pulling your leg a bit. you are a lovely sport. :)
Listen Lounn.. I am not a he. I'm proud of being a she. :) .. and not totally uneducated... sorry to say! I could have LOTS to say about health care.. but won't. I happen to be a bioscientist with pharmaceutical and related research experience .. but.. this is about choices.. not any of that. Just choices.... our OWN choices.. including opinions. Thanks all.. for reading .. and adding to a great discussion... and by the way.. Ralph is far from right... oops...sorry for the pun.. but he is.
lol, nice pun. Happy Valentine's, silverstar.
Yeah, I feel too good to argue tonight, but sometime we shall have to argue pol. I have read a few of your hubs, here and there - they run to my general interests.
I've just been way too happy lately to argue. :) Keep them coming though. You never can tell when I might feel energetic and join in the debate in a more useful manner. :D
Oh Ralph. Where do I get the idea that Hillary or Obama are socialist? They have told me so in their own words. They will take over the profits of the oil companies. Even if they said nothing more.... that is enough for me. Anyone who wants to limit and control free enterprise in any way.. what would you call it? "The dems tend to regulate more." Exactly. Nail right on the head.. only add more and more and more on to Hillary and Obama's tendencies.
Also.. we have children whom we have worked hard at teaching them the worth of earning your own way. I would just hate for them to grow up thinking we were wrong.. that working hard to earn their own way leaves them with less than the couch potato Mortimas refers to. That would be a sad day.
Well, healthcare is not like a fancy car, a great meal at a restaurant or another luxury item that we want; healthcare is a need and it is virtually impossible to abuse it (you either need medical care or you don't). Both Hillary's and Barack's plans give you plenty of choice - they just say that you will not be turned away and be left to die in the streets if an insurance company decided not to cover you because you weren't profitable.
Yes, mortimas, you have healthcare through your employer; so do I. But there are millions of people between jobs or self-employed that can not get coverage or it just costs way too much. I have a good friend who is a consultant but has hemachromatosis; not a single insurance company will take him for less than $10,000 per month. On his earnings, he can not afford healthcare. He is exceptionally hard-working but is suited to consultancy given the area of his expertise. What do you say to him - tough, get a less-than-optimal job? That doesn't sound like something a conservative would say.
mortimas - you admit you're not compassionate. What I would say is that bad things can happen to you just as easily as they happen to anyone else, and that is not the time you'd want to hear people telling you to "suck it up".
silverstar8 - I don't think children's ambitions would be dashed if they were assured healthcare. Sorry, but human ambition and drive goes far beyond hoping that you'll receive medical care when you need it.
Thanks Lounn.. and happy Valentine's day to you too... I don't like to argue in general .. by nature .. just feel a need to voice my opinion on things that mean much to me... and I know we Americans are the most resilient of creatures on earth. It's what has kept us great .. we do what we have to do.. no matter what.
I am not telling anyone to suck it up. And as far as your friend goes, that is an issue that needs to be addressed, he is a working man and should have access to affordable healthcare. The private healthcare industry should make it in their best interest to accomodate him, they do not, and this is one reason that a universal healthcare program looms, unnencesarily, I will not blame sweeping healhcare reforms only on political factions, as it is a lot in the laps of some healthcare providers not finding a way to carve out a niche in that market. At the most, as much as I hate to say this, the healthcare insurance providers need maybe a bit of regulation so people like your friend are not left in the cold, but a sweeping healthcare reform bill that is universal healthcare is not the answer. I dont think that is a good enough answer for you though.. sorry.
And as far as something bad happening to me? You are crazy, as I am invincible and will live to be 300. .
The threat to our economy is not socialism but wild fiscal irresponsibility. Wars and defense budgets in the trillions. Out of control spending....borrowing from everyone on the planet. Printing money, devaluing the currency and corporation worship while they are busy shipping jobs and capital overseas. And if you blame democrats, take a look at Bush's budgets or Ronald Reagan's. But I am honest enough to recognize that both sides of the aisle are playing us like fools. You seem to worry about socialized health care which is one reasonable path toward restoring our economic infrastructure. Even corporations are going bankrupt trying to pay healthcare costs or shipping jobs overseas where they don't have to worry about such expenses. I am sympathetic with libertarianism but your faith is misplaced in the republican party. Look what Bush has done with the Patriot act..it will not be much longer before you won't be able to criticize this regime without the FBI showing up at your door. That is if you can afford a door.
silverstar, by argue I mean of course good spirited debate. I think it's both useful and fun. I'm not a stone wall. If you have good points in such a debate, you'll find that I'll consider them.
of course, you realize I'm far more left than Ralph, economically. I suspect you and I would have quite the fun arguing economic policy.
will add, I have greatly enjoyed reading your opinions, really all pol opinions. if there is something I don't like regarding politics it's apathy, not opposites. :)
Children's ambitions would be dashed if they worked their heads off to get a good job.. make their own way.. just to see it taken away from them and handed over to the couch potatoes.. more so than it already is. The health care issue....President Bush had a very sound plan.... much much much better than government take over of it and garnishment of our wages.. which I'm quite sure must be illegal anyhow... unless under court order for criminal reasons or something like that.. like not paying child support.... that the dems turned down. Why? Maybe becasue it left government without the control? Sorry... Hillary and Obama reek of danger from every side. That's how I see it. Again.. why would anyone back anyone who wants to limit or control or take away from free enterprise? That is and always has been the backbone of this country. The American dream rests on the ability to work and achieve... yet what they propose would be the beginning of the end of that dream. Can you not see that? Mind boggling. Just mind boggling.. sorry.
Silverstar, what Clinton and Obama are talking about wrt the oil industry is to roll back the special tax incentives proposed by Bush and passed by the GOP majority three years ago, before the price of oil went up to $100 a barrel and oil industry profits sky rocketed. The purpose of the tax break was to encourage them to explore in the U.S. for oil to lessen our dependence on Middle East oil. This wasn't a totally dumb idea, but the exploration subsidy is hardly needed now because for a couple of years oil company profits have gone through the roof. Moreover, what we need, more than, exploration is fuel conservation--motor vehicles with better fuel economy. There isn't enough oil left in the U.S. even counting Anwar to make more than a small dent in our dependence on Middle East (and Venezuelan)oil. The Iraq war hasn't helped this situation. Anyway Clinton and Obama are proposing to drop the special subsidy, not take away the profits of the oil companies which are very profitable without any subsidies, and which, with oil at $100 a barrel, have plenty of incentive to explore all over the world.
Oil is a renewable resource.. the earth continually makes oil... and we would have plenty of oil of our own if the you know whos didn't block it. I like drivign the car I choose.. not the one our government would pick for me. Dont you? You can pick a two man one with little donut tires.. but I dont' like them. Choice. Choice. Choice. Obama and Clinton have both said they will take over the profits of the oil companies.. how they will do that .. who knows.. but they have both declared they will. Taxing the oil companies through the roof would be a very efficietn way of taking those profits.. dont' you think?
And Obama wants to spend 260 billion dollars more.. for social programs... and where does that money come from? The government makes no money.
Sorry.. I will never ever advocate to anyone to follow anyone who wants to take control of my life into their hands. Period.
The health insurance problem is complicated and goes in a mad cycle.. alot of it fed by greed. Sorry... that takes this off in a direction not needed... but almost all of our problems can be traced to traits in human nature .. one being greed and laziness and wanting something for nothing.. which never happens... and then another in those who love the idea of power and honor of that power and the control it brings into their hands who feed on those people who want something for nothing by promising them everything then having to stomp on those who have something because they have worked for it and taking it and giving it to those who want something for nothing.... and .. whew.. that is why I cannot be an advocate for anyonw who really believes all of that would work. We would end up another Soviet Union.
Really good hub but comment battle makes it. It does not really matter who gets in they will do exactly what they want and that is an unfortunate fact of politics.
I agree.. but we can be thankful they don't get away with always doing exactly what they want.. that the seat is always bigger than the man/ woman. Oh America! How I love it!
Oil is not a renewable resource. Industry experts are all concerned about the approach of "peak oil." The only difference of opinion is over when we will reach peak oil. (Peak oil is the point where world oil production begins to decline due to exaustion of the oil supply in the ground.) Please tell me where you heard that oil is a renewable reource. From what I've read, that's flat wrong.
Of course oil is a fossil fuel, but you're the first person I've heard say that it's continuously being formed within the earth. I would be interested in seeing a source for that. I've been wrong before, but I don't think I am on this one. Here's what Wikipedia has to say about peak oil:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_oil
Renewable energy sources are 1. wind, 2. sunlight, 3. water including rivers, tides and waves. Our largest source of fuel at this time is coal,a fossil fuel, like oil, but we need to figure out how to burn it without polluting. Coal fired power plants are the biggest source of greenhouse gases, motor vehicles are second.
http://www.oralchelation.com/faq/wsj4.htm
I shouldn't have said IS.. but could very well be..
How can either theory be a proven one? Fossil fuel made from decaying organic material and decaying dinosaurs... or a natural product of the earth being produced constantly?
One more source..
Ralph.. I deleted that comment of mine because I reread it and I had it all backwards from what I meant to say. (I'm trying my best not to apply myself to my title :) . It is interesting to think oil may be a continuously made product within the earth and it even seems to make more sensse to me than to believe it comes from the decay of ancient forests and decaying old dinosaurs. Seems to me it would have had to have been a whole lot of dinosaurs to produce just what we have used thus far in time. Just thoughts ....
That's very interesting. I retract what I said. There may be something to it. I'd never read anything about that theory. However, the mainstream petroleum geologists, I think, are still talking about peak oil. I wondered also about how all that oil could have come from decaying dinosaurs, etc. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
But whatever the truth is about the renewability of oil, we can still probably get and argument going about the relationship between burning coal and oil and global climate change??:-) My belief is that whatever the truth about oil, even if the supply is infinite, we should still start to figure out how to stop pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
We have defineitely been a polluting society... but certainly the US has not been or is the worst as many would like to make us believe. We have become a throw away society... for convenience. That is bound to bring problems with pollution... but the atmoshere? I really will never believe man controls the climate. Remember the hole in the ozone layer? Well.. kids were taught in grade school about that hole and were afraid they might get sucked up into it :). If you look at it.. you will see the ozone thickness changes in cycles.... and so does everythihg else. Man's powers are limited... and I see nature as the one thing that reminds us of that.
"Oh Ralph. Where do I get the idea that Hillary or Obama are socialist? They have told me so in their own words. They will take over the profits of the oil companies. "
Maybe I am dumb. Even if H or O did "take over the profits" of the oil companies, what would it matter?
Are you an American????
Would you like them to take over yours? That statement is being used out of context there by the way.
the oil debate is in an attempt to avoid future debaucles resembling the Iraq war...if we aren't digging in other people's backyards for fuel supplies, then we will be able to become independent and create our own fuel sources.
We have to end our addiction to foreign oil!!!!
People seem to have a misconstured idea of how much oil we actually get from Iraq and the mideast in general......
Here are some interesting facts to ponder............. and make you wonder why these facts aren't noted by our media ... which media seems to want you to believe we get 99% .....at least.. of our oil from the midesast.
"Amount of U.S. oil consumption that comes from U.S. production: 7.3 mbd, or 42 percent. We produce fifty percent more oil than Iraq and Kuwait, almost as much oil as Saudi Arabia and the Emirates. Nevertheless, we import more than half the oil we use.
Amount of U.S. oil consumption that comes from the Middle East: 2 mbd -- 12 percent, only three percent from Iraq and Kuwait. The rest of our imported oil comes from places like Canada, Venezuela, Mexico, Nigeria, Algeria, Ecuador, and England."
I believe we get about 20% of our oil from Canada.. which really does appreciate our buinsess. We wouldn't have to get any oil from anywhere if we were allowed to drill our own.
Sidepoint.... I believe in conservation for the sake of conservation ... but not as a means for power or control over anyone or anything. America has always been market and consumer driven.... which is what makes America America. Take that away and we have what?
The Iraq war..... how can you not see if it were not for the Iraq war we would or could very well be fighting one 9/11 after another here in our streets? I for one will always be thankful President Bush cared not at all about the "polls" but cared enough about this country to do what is right for it and us concerning our security. I simply cannot understand how everyone does not see that. The bombings on our soil began befoe President Bush took office.. and were escalating.. finally to the point of 9/11. Bill Clinton did nothing. Predident Bush stopped them.... and in the process .. Iraq is being set free.... a great side effect. .. wouldn't you agree?
Thank you, Silverstar, for your comments! Nicely done! I don't need to say more. Thanks for the hub- very useful information. http://www.jacksfinancialconsultantlist.com.
Thank you ... Jessica
Ralp is a nut that has no idea. That is alot of the problem today. They have been Dumbed down.
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Ralph Deeds Level 6 Commenter 4 years ago
Exxon profit $10 billion, a record for any corporation in a single quarter.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/earnings/2